It is obvious that the Ontario Premier is still working with the teachers’ unions’ heads in tweaking Regulation 274, to keep the teachers’ unions happy and contented.

The teachers unions are all for Regulation 274. ETFO’s response - “The principle of seniority is at the core of ensuring fairness in unionized workplaces. It provides workers with some measure of control over their employer’s hiring decisions, which might otherwise be based on favouritism or discrimination.

The role of seniority in the hiring process under the regulation is being unfairly targeted. There are currently thousands of qualified teachers looking for full-time employment and they are, understandably, frustrated with not being hired as quickly as recent graduates were over a decade ago. This over-supply of qualified teachers is not the result of hiring based on seniority; it is the result of the government funding too many places at faculties of education and not addressing the over-supply in a timely fashion.”  http://www.etfo.ca/resources/reg274/pages/default.aspx

In a news article, to which one has to go to, to find out the true reasons why the teachers’ unions are for Regulation 274 - “Union president Paul Elliott said that, while he does not support all aspects of the regulation, he does agree jobs should go to those who have put in the most time.

“Boards have the full authority” to put who they want on their long-term supply lists, “but once you have those people who have worked in your boards, I think their experience needs to be recognized.”

For that reason, the union — as well as the Elementary Teachers’ Federation of Ontario — does not want Regulation 274 repealed, but rather revised.

Michael Barrett, of the Ontario Public School Boards’ Association, said even though teacher union leaders have spoken out against Regulation 274 — publicly vowing to fight it — “despite their rhetoric, they have always been in favour of Regulation 274 because it gives them the ability to strictly hire on seniority.”

Their support for the regulation comes “despite pushback from their members and some very vocal and active anti-274 advocates within the teaching profession,” Barrett said.

Barrett argued the regulation “gives the union greater control over the hiring process, which is really the last bastion of independence for principals.”
http://metronews.ca/news/canada/807808/teacher-seniority-hiring-rule-leads-to-hundreds-of-grievances/

“OSSTF/FEESO representatives did not entertain any suggestions that would dilute any rights currently guaranteed under Reg 274.” http://www.osstfd10.ca/ot.htm

From the TDSB - “Regulation 274 was agreed to by the Provincial Government during the negotiations with
teachers around Bill 115 when the government was trying to get the teachers on Board with their loss of salary and benefits. It was sort of a concession to teachers who had accused some Catholic Boards of nepotism and cronyism in hiring teachers for long term positions. This is not an issue in the TDSB hiring practices - but if it is there are other ways of dealing with the situation other than Regulation 274.” http://www.northleaschool.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/A-Case-Against-Regulation-274.pdf

In another Globe and Mail article - “The apparent motive, however, was an attempt to find some way of accommodating – or appeasing – the teachers unions, in a period when the Liberal McGuinty government was in a severe conflict with those same unions.”  http://www.theglobeandmail.com/commentary/editorials/seniority-is-a-bad-criterion-for-hiring-teachers/article14556645/

The only education stakeholders that are proponents of Regulation 274, are the teachers’ unions. The school boards are against it. The Ontario Federation of Home and School Association are against it. The Student Teachers’ Union are against it.

I can’t see why the Conservative bill to do away with Regulation 274 will not go through. Even the People for Education are against it, and if so, there be a lot of people supporting the Conservative bill, even if they have to hold their noses, to go against the teachers’ unions who probably no longer are supporting diversity in the teachers’ ranks. Seniority is the objective for the teachers’ union to gain control over the hiring processes.

POBOD

Everybody was fine with the old system principals hire for HS usually SOs hire for ES but there was an endless stream of complaints from the catholic system regarding nepotism. The almost automatic hiring of the children of principals and supers. The rule was requested to offset nepotism.

I would much rather have some other rule but post amalgamation, mant boards are gigantic, especially the more rural and northern boards. It also seems unfair to the children of principals to say they ‘can’t’ be hired.

The job market is very tight and people will use any means at their disposal to get an advantage. Without seniority how do you fight nepotism without forbidding relatives from applying? Nobody knows?

POBOD

Only OECTA supports B274. It was imposed on the other unions since the whole OECTA deal was imposed. Seems nepotism is only a big problem in RC boards.

Doug, the teachers unions’ brass are supporting Regulation 274, and just want Regulation 274 tweak so more senior teachers can moved between school boards without losing seniority.

It sure looks like the Ontario Premier is attempting to do, when overwhelmingly, the school boards, the trustees, the school councils, and even the union members are against Regulation 274. Regulation 274 was not imposed on the teachers’ union - it was welcomed with open arms by the union brass. So much for union leadership eh Doug?

pobod

Ask Sam Hammond. He has been resisting since MOU. Only OECTA supports B274 and if you could find another way to address nepotism I’m sure they are all ears.

pobod

http://www.thestar.com/yourtoronto/education/2013/08/12/ontario_teachers_cautiously_optimistic_about_new_school_year.html

Nancy, read down until you get to B274.

Dated September 26, 2013 - “Union president Paul Elliott said that, while he does not support all aspects of the regulation, he does agree jobs should go to those who have put in the most time.

“Boards have the full authority” to put who they want on their long-term supply lists, “but once you have those people who have worked in your boards, I think their experience needs to be recognized.”

For that reason, the union — as well as the Elementary Teachers’ Federation of Ontario — does not want Regulation 274 repealed, but rather revised.

Michael Barrett, of the Ontario Public School Boards’ Association, said even though teacher union leaders have spoken out against Regulation 274 — publicly vowing to fight it — “despite their rhetoric, they have always been in favour of Regulation 274 because it gives them the ability to strictly hire on seniority.”
http://metronews.ca/news/canada/807808/teacher-seniority-hiring-rule-leads-to-hundreds-of-grievances/

The link was in my last post Doug. I also came across the same quotes in the Globe and Mail, but not in the Toronto Star. No doubt, I probable find the above quotes in the National Post and the Huffington Post.

If you check out the unions’ web sites - the statements are neutral in tone, wanting only to change some elements of Regulation 274. Ergo, why the Ontario Premier is doing what she is doing - remaining best pals with the unions.

pobod

Sam Hammond on twitter

Fact - in our talks with the government #ETFO argued for a central hiring model with Principals doing ALL the hiring.
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If you notice Doug, the union leaders are not consistent with their statements from one day to the next. Perchance are the union leaders playing politics on the just dug grave of Regulation 274? Publicly, saying different things to confused the public but behind doors, working hand in hand with the Liberal government to tweak Regulation 247 to their liking.

When googling, I observed Regulation 274 did not became an object of interest until June of 2013. Before that, it was all about Bill 115…........And the only interested parties against Regulation 274 was the school boards, the trustees and other related groups/individuals (think teachers as individuals). The latter have been and still are consistent with their statements on Regulation 274, which cannot be said about the teachers’ unions.