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Society for Quality Education

Off The Clock

Off The Clock
April 09, 2012 by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) at 06:52 AM

There is an interesting article on the effectiveness of the currently-popular "Extended Learning Time" (ELT) approach to school reform. The idea is that disadvantaged students need more school time if they are to catch up to their more advantaged peers. The issue is of particular relevance to Ontario, as it embarks on its ground-breaking experiment with universal all-day junior kindergarten. 

Perhaps not surprisingly, the article reports that ELT is far from a slam dunk. For one thing, there are a number of unintended consequences - for example, the budget-draining cost of higher teacher and support staff salaries and the tendancy of experienced and highly-qualified teachers to transfer out of schools that bring in ELT. According to the article, students in US states with mandatory ELT policies perform the same as students in states without mandatory ELT policies. 

It turns out that simply adding extra school time changes little. "Schools that have succeeded with extended time have done so largely because they include time as part of a more comprehensive reform.... Good schools are made by strong networks that support and demand great leaders, who create and cultivate effective teams of teachers, who really know what and how to teach students. To suggest that our nation's worst schools will be transformed, and that student outcomes will improve, because of more time, is not any different than suggesting that they will be transformed by more money. Both are necessary, and both boast plenty of persuasive adages about why more is better. But both are overly simplistic treatments to the very complex problem of improving education."

Hamsters work long hours on their running wheels, but they don't accomplish a thing.

Comments

Schools need good curricula and teachers using direct instruction.  Teachers also need to be held accountable for their students’ outcome/merit pay.  This would naturally eliminate a great deal of wasted time.  To help the teachers become more effective, they should stop social promotion and have standardized exams in order to see which students have mastered the curricula, and of course only pass the ones who can handle the next grade.  Right now it’s so nutzzz grin

Posted by Bev on 04/09 at 07:31 AM

Yah, it is nutzz.  Y’know, this extended school time suggestion reminds me of a lot of the philosophy behind the absurd school-based-team decisions that are implemented on students whom do not perform well in my school.


Question: What are the differences between NECESSARY IMPLEMENTS and a SEDENTARY INDOLENCE?

Answer: Pursuing a school-based ‘intervention’.


  In my target this morning are things like ‘grippy pencils’ (supposedly for poor penmanship), ‘wiggle seats’ (supposedly for kids that can’t stay still),  ‘elastic laces’ (for those that can’t tie shoes) and ‘training’ wheels for those that can’t ride a bike.  Yes, all of the little, cute, colourful(!) band-aids for other achievement problems that shatter children’s golden self-image. 

  Add to this list Kurtzweil 3000 and use of calculators instead of knowing how to add, and I begin to wonder what a person is actually responsible for getting down to learning these days.
 
  From the list above, student X needn’t worry about being able to print legibly, nor show restraint by remaining in his/her seat. Nor tie his/her own shoes or even locomote on the mainstay 2-wheeled machine of childhood.  Furthermore, with computer technology, Student X doesn’t even have to learn to read or compute!  Do you remember that song by Adam Ant… “Don’t drink, don’t smoke? -What do you do?”


It is SO nutzzzzz


  Don’t extend the student work time or change the standard.  That is the element of the equation that must stay constant.  Group those with like abilities together and change the teaching practice so that you can teach more effectively.  Bring those that are struggling up to speed, and fast! Time is slipping away! 

    The intervention philosophy is really an 11th hour method of dealing with the a dream of Rousseau, and after him, Dewey.  Their dreams have only resulted in the further ingraining of the learners’ inequalities.  Covering those inequalities up with intervention strategies, in order to “protect” the learner, or to “get them by” is academic child-abuse.  Engelmann figured this out 36 years ago.  It is not new.

  In education the adage, ” What goes around, comes around”  should be rephrased as:

                                                      WHAT GOES AROUND, GOES AROUND

again and again and again…

Posted by madteacher on 04/09 at 08:59 AM

My, you do have a penchant for shooting yourself in the foot, don’t you.  You are so fixated on the Early School program, that you forget everything else.  You forget that your other bug-a-boo is private school.  Have you ever thought about the length of their school day?  In Ontario, most public schools have a 6.25 to 6.5 hour day.  US Stats show private schools have on average 6.7 to 6.8 hour days.

http://nces.ed.gov/surveys/pss/tables/table_2006_24.asp

Posted by Wayne Scott Ng on 04/09 at 12:51 PM

POSTED ON BEHALF OF DOUG LITTLE

Best way is summer and after school “voluntary” extra learning time. The teachers ‘volunteer’ of course they get paid like any summer school and after school is like ‘Pathways’.
Of course the ELP will help but I would start at age 2 as Montessorri suggested.

Posted by Malkin Dare on 04/09 at 05:03 PM

During the long summer away from school, before our kids were in highschool, several of us moms would get together and do schoolwork with our children—just to keep them sharp.  We’d always review the syllabi.  The kids still had hours of play and time to take swimming lessons.  They never complained of being bored…

Posted by Bev on 04/09 at 05:21 PM

http://glclk.about.com/?zi=16/FjGu

The statistics are troubling—20 percent of the students with learning disabilities in high school will drop out compared to the 8 percent of the general student population, close to half of secondary student with learning disabilities perform more than three grade levels below their enrolled grade in essential academic skills, and only 10 percent of students with learning disabilities are enrolled in a four-year college within two years of leaving school. There’s no doubt these statistics and numbers can look daunting for a newly diagnosed student or parent of a learning disabled child. However, a huge part of the fear behind learning disabilities comes from misinformation and misconceptions.  Learn more about the common misconceptions people have about learning disabilities.

Posted by Matt Wanes on 04/09 at 09:43 PM

Wha?

“You forget that your other bug-a-boo is private school.  Have you ever thought about the length of their school day?”

You must not be talking to me.  I have no particular concern about private schools…

Posted by madteacher on 04/09 at 11:46 PM

Simply extending the amount of time kids spend in school looks a bit dubious as a means of improving outcomes.  If results aren’t good to begin with how does more of the same improve things?  No doubt there are other issues with greater value.

Posted by John L on 04/10 at 02:50 PM
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