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Cargo Cult Science is alive and well in Niagara

January 29, 2011 by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) at 08:20 AM

The Niagara Public School Board plans to open a school for low-income students whose parents don’t have a college or university education. Read all about it here. As the (appallingly-misspelled) comments show, there are plenty of objections in terms of élitism, segregation, discrimination, and so on. However, no one has picked up on the really bad aspect of the scheme - namely, that it is unlikely to work.

According to the article at least, the new school will provide all the trappings of success - tutoring, mentoring, parent involvement, nutrition programs, a stable environment, after-school activities, etc. But there is no talk of a switch to the kind of direct, sequential instruction that disadvantaged students need if they are to succeed. Project Follow-Through, a 20-year study involving more than 350,000 children, definitively proved that the best programs for disadvantaged students - in terms of both academic success and positive self-concept, are programs that use direct, sequential instruction and emphasize basic skills. These findings have never been challenged. 

Yet the Niagara Board is silent on the vital question of instructional methodology. This is Cargo Cult Science in action. Here’s Richard Feynmann on the subject (excerpted from a Caltech commencement address).

“In the South Seas, there is a cargo cult of people. During the war they saw airplanes land with lots of good materials, and they want the same thing to happen now. So they’ve arranged to imitate things like runways, to put fires along the sides of the runways, to make a wooden hut for a man to sit in, with two wooden pieces on his head like headphones and bars of bamboo sticking out like antennas - he’s the controller - and they wait for the airplanes to land. They’re doing everything right. The form is perfect. It looks exactly the way it looked before. But it doesn’t work. No airplanes land. So I call these things cargo cult science, because they follow all the apparent precepts and forms of scientific investigation, but they’re missing something essential, because the planes don’t land.

“Now it behooves me, of course, to tell you what they’re missing. But it would be just about as difficult to explain to the South Sea Islanders how they have to arrange things so that they get some wealth in their system. It is not something simple like telling them how to improve the shapes of the earphones. But there is one feature I notice that is generally missing in cargo cult science. That is the idea that we all hope you have learned in studying science in school - we never explicitly say what this is, but just hope that you catch on by all the examples of scientific investigation. It is interesting, therefore, to bring it out now and speak of it explicitly. It’s a kind of scientific integrity, a principle of scientific thought that corresponds to a kind of utter honesty - a kind of leaning over backwards.”

Comments

As one commenter stated, it will always be known as the poor school.

“I agree with dfknox. It’s a method of helping raise other schools’ scores. A friend of mine put it best - “This way they can go to school with poor kids, go home to poor parents in their poor neighborhood, and then grow up poor!” Way to reinforce generational poverty. And to the grandmother in the article - don’t kid yourself. This won’t open any doors. These kids will forever be targeted as “from that poor school” and the smart ones will have to battle even harder to drag themselves up and out of poverty. Hey, at least this way it’s even easier for the other kids to figure out who to pick on! I probably would have qualified for this as a kid, and I am horrified about it. TERRIBLE IDEA!! “

Especially when curriculum and teaching methods are not change.  It is like putting a target on these kids, without thinking of the ramifications of the wider society.

Here is another comment.
“School Test Scores
Our EQAO and Literacy Test scores all show that the greatest indicator of success on these tests is family income and parent level of education achieved. And of course, schools have to live with these results. This seems like a not-very-subtle strategy to gather all these kids together from places where they are dragging the scores down and put them in a place where no one will care too much what the scores are because of the demographic. Poor kids. Screwed before they were born. Why don’t people think before they have kids? Oh yeah…”

I wonder what kind of tactics will be used to convince low-income parents to send their children to the school?  From the reaction I have received from a few low-income people, this is nuts, and than they list their various reasons why. Much like the reasons in the comments.

Also note there is inaccuracies in the article.  The big one being, “The area has the second highest unemployment rate in the country and the proportion of low income families is now 14 per cent.”

Perhaps for Southern Ontario, but not Canada. And is still no reason for using this fact to promote a low-income school, in the light of falling enrollment.  The educrats will used anything to promote their theories on SEC factors, but in this case it is rather appalling to used their high unemployment rate in this way, to justified the gathering of low income students.Their high unemployment rate is directly related to job loss in the typical middle-class manufacturing and service sector, and it is highly doubtful this group of people who have seen their income drop, will enroll their children in a school for low-income students. They do not see themselves in the same way, nor having the same needs as those who are below them.

Posted by Nancy on 01/29 at 04:17 PM

I’m not as concerned about the article not spelling out a set explicit instructional strategies for the concept. I know in our own district, we’ve announced the intention to open an specialized elementary school, but have yet to do the strategic planning around the instructional approach.

I’m not saying that this is not important. In fact, it is crucial. In the Niagara initiative, they may still be in the planning stages.

That said, given the September open, if they were to proceed much further without giving serious consideration to what is going to be different about this school in terms of instruction and program design, then I would be very concerned. I have emailed the District to investigate the initiative further.

The big question I have has to do with the grade 6 start. If we’re going to hope to mitigate the effects of low SES, then we have to start much, much earlier than grade 6. In fact, all research that I’ve read points to the need to begin in early childhood. Grade 6 is bordering on adolescence and moving students to a new environment of this kind at age 11 could do more harm than good.

The comment was made in the article that they intend to start in Grade 6 because that is when students start thinking about going to college or university. Hmmm…not many grade 6 students that I encounter are talking a whole lot about post-secondary. They are just starting to talk about the opposite sex!

I’ll let you know what I hear from Niagara!

Stephen

Posted by Stephen Hurley on 01/30 at 07:52 AM

After reading Stephen’s post, I became curious as to what people really thought about a low-income school, because this was kept very quiet. Yes, indeed it was kept quiet, by not keeping the public inform.

“In Niagara, Miele questioned why there were no delegations at the board meeting when the plan was approved — the first school of its kind in Ontario.

“Major things should have public input. It’s part of good transparency,” he said.

“Why wasn’t this an election issue or part of trustee debates?”

No stranger to challenging the school board — he fought for years to save Niagara District Secondary School before his unsuccessful campaign for a trustee seat in the October municipal election — Miele plans to file a human rights complaint against the board.”

http://stcatharinesstandard.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2950310

And the public is not only ticked off by being kept out of the loop. but most are against the idea. Comments all over twitter, facebook, and postings certainly tells a different picture, that the residents residing in DSBN are not very happy campers when it comes to the board, and the general operations of the schools themselves. I read comments from everything from A to Z dealing with literacy concerns to the denial of remedial reading help for students at the high school level. One woman was trying to help a 15 year old, to get help for reading since he was at a grade 5 level in reading, sitting in a grade 10. The principal’s response is as typical for the administrator crowd -
“Well he can read…......”  Needless to say, the boy did dropped out of school. 

“The Minister of Education says:Minister Leona Dombrowsky said she heard about the school through the media since the responsibility rests in the locally elected board’s hands.

“I worry about the stigmatization of children,” she said. 90% of the feedback from parents say this is a bad idea (segregation) is the word they are using.”

Moving to the latest developments, “Just days after school board approval to open DSBN Academy, a Grade 6-12 school for low-income students, one of its community partnerships has been severed.

Daniel Peat, president of the Ontario Secondary School Teachers Federation District 22 Niagara, said Friday he has heard so many concerns from members opposed to the academy that he has informed the DSBN Academy project co-ordinator he will no longer be part of the school’s advisory committee.”
http://www.stcatharinesstandard.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2952437

From a professor who grew up in Regent Park, “The sociology professor said he’s concerned whether students at a school designated to a specific class of society will have the same opportunities as students attending mainstream schools.

“I wonder whether schools like this, in the end, will produce the very inequality they were designed to fight,” he said.

He is also concerned about the impact it might have on existing public schools.

“When there is a population constructed as one with special needs, it can take the onus off mainstream schools to accommodate diversity,” he said, adding he believes the programs offered by the academy should be implemented in mainstream schools.

“You wouldn’t want mainstream schools to create a situation where it’s like, ‘if you don’t like it here, go there.’”

http://www.stcatharinesstandard.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2952323

The latest development.

“While the temporary home for DSBN Academy is set in stone, there are no concrete plans for the new regional school’s long-term location.

District School Board of Niagara trustees voted Tuesday to move forward with the new school geared toward assisting students from low-income families to reach post-secondary education.

While DSBN Academy will be temporarily housed at Empire Public School in Welland — slated to close in June — the board’s long-term plan is to move the school to either a Brock University or Niagara College campus.”

http://www.wellandtribune.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2952465&

This should really get the taxpayers hopping mad, for a school that was closed by the board, than to be re-open for low-income students after renovations and than to state it is temporary?  No wonder the board did not want the public inform about any aspect of the DSBN Academy, the public would question the board’s ability and handling of expenditures.

Posted by Nancy on 01/30 at 10:25 AM

also the topic of discussion here
“Low Income Solution”  http://theeducationreporter.blogspot.com/

And following in the footsteps of a similar push in the TDSB to educate parents in low socio-economic neighbourhoods

http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/moira_macdonald/2011/01/25/17032831.html

Posted by Chuck on 01/30 at 10:42 AM

isn’t this board just attempting to offer another choice for parents?

If they make an error or if parents choose that school for their kids, it’s the responsibility of the board and parents if things don’t pan out.

How is this any different from the alternative schools in other boards where nothing really changes in terms of teaching methods but the illusion of choice is being offered?

Let it happen at the local level. It’s up to parents to educate themselves as to the choices open to them….even this one.

CNN has been carrying a story from a Pennsylvania school district looking at segregating black boys and girls in their own classes.  CNN’s pull on the story was that as a country the effort that went in to desegregation may have been lost.

Posted by Chuck on 01/30 at 10:50 AM

Thanks for all the links, Nancy. This will be interesting to follow. If the community outcry is that severe, this will likely not go ahead…and that’s the way it should be.

Posted by Stephen Hurley on 01/30 at 11:50 AM

I am surprise Chuck, that you think it is ok to have a school composed only of low-income students. It is not a good idea to separate children, based on income. The board should be providing help for these students within the public schools that they have, and not make a new school, solely designed for low-income students.

Below is a viewpoint by a teacher:

” have been in the profession for over 20 years, and through the course of these years, I have taught children coming from every possible socio-economic situation and have come to one conclusion—children are children, and should not be treated differently regardless of race, religion, family income, ability, or disability. It is the job of the teachers to adjust our teaching methods to accommodate individual learning—it’s called differentiated instruction and trained and competent teachers have been using differentiated instruction in their classrooms forever. We are able to recognize the needs of our students and to adjust our programming accordingly. But we MUST have the support of our school boards—tangible support and not just the obligatory lip-service.”

http://www.dunnvillechronicle.com/community/NewsDisplay.aspx?c=112361

He goes on to state, “The solution to all of these adversities is not to group children into separate schools according to any standard. The solution is to re-invest funds into creating new programming, and upgrading existing programming and infrastructure—put the money where it belongs.”

There is rather harsh statements coming from teachers that the idea of a low-income school will not work for a number of reasons. I believe it will create more inequities within the low-income population within the board, that has an identified number of 5400.  low-income students.

“The new school will have 525 students, only one-tenth of the 5,400 of the DSBN’s students identified in the board’s proposal as low income,” he said.

Although board members spoke of how the school would not significantly impact any one school’s enrollment — since students would be bused in from communities throughout Niagara — Peat said he would like to have seen this investigated further.”
http://niagarafallsreview.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2952989&auth=JULIE GRECO, QMI AGENCY

Now DSBN is a big board, geographically, and an obvious question, would be the costs of transportation to Welland. Add the other costs of two meals per day, and the other programs intended for this student population - What will be the costs at the end of the day?

” Supports offered through the school include a single track academic program to prepare students for the rigors of college and university courses, tutoring and mentoring opportunities, breakfast and lunch programs as well as after school programming. Parent engagement will be an important aspect of the school and parents will be involved as volunteers at the school. “
http://www.dsbn.edu.on.ca/Communications/news-release.aspx?id=11739

Since it will be a school with only 525 students, and all will be on the single academic track, would it not lead to creaming the best low-income students throughout the board?  It is probably one of the reasons why the Ontario Secondary Federation has pulled their support.

As you noted Chuck, this is really no different than the other alternatives when nothing changes in teaching methods, but than you state that let the parents at the local level educate themselves on the choices. You just left an impression that a school for low-income students only, is prefectly acceptable.  What will be next? A school for immigrants only?  There has to be a better way…..

Posted by Nancy on 01/30 at 12:00 PM

“You just left an impression that a school for low-income students only, is prefectly acceptable.  What will be next? A school for immigrants only?  There has to be a better way….. “

some of those already exist Nancy in some boards as alternatives.

You can quote all the studies and educators you like but
letting a community decide for itself - good, bad or otherwise should be left up to that community. No government, no organization, no parent making decisions on what’s good or not.

It will eventually be up to those same parents to either own-up to their decisions - good, bad or otherwise.

There was quite a dust-up in this board re: the closure and transportation issues faced by students during a really loud accommodation review. Perhaps this one suggestion stems from that.

As wrong as you might see it, or as hopeless as Malkin sees it if the community is making the decision based on what they deem they need, let them.

Looking forward to seeing the rebuttal letters and maybe even one from SQE to the story in Ste. Catharines.

Posted by Chuck on 01/30 at 12:33 PM

Interestingly enough, some of the objections and reasoning NOT to have a choice like this are the same ones those who favour choice options face…..but have proven to be myths.

Posted by Chucker on 01/30 at 12:36 PM

I agree with Chuck. A big part of me is trying to contain a very visceral reaction to this idea. I want to jump up and head off to St. Kitts to camp out at the District office.

Another part of me says, “OK, isn’t this what community choice is all about?” It’s not only about having options of where to send children to school; it’s also about choosing what those options look like.

I don’t think anyone feels good about kids being put into a program that may look a little unsteady. But that’s what the design of alternatives is all about.

Posted by Stephen Hurley on 01/30 at 12:38 PM

It is fine having this kind of choice, but in this case there was no parental involvement.

It was the idea of the board and other community organizations.

” While the OSSTF has withdrawn its backing, other community partners including Community Care, Brock University, Niagara College, Niagara Region, the YMCA of Niagara, and Elementary Teachers Federation of Ontario are standing firm.”
http://niagarafallsreview.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2952989&auth=JULIE GRECO, QMI AGENCY

It has anger parents and other taxpayers that they had no input at all. That is another reason why the OSSTF withdrew their support. Parents were not involved, including asking the low-income parents what they thought of it, until after it was approve. Parents are only involve as being require to volunteer at the school. Somehow this may pose a great difficulty for those who do not live in Welland to travel back and forth. With the price of gas, and for those without a car, will the parents have to climb unto the buses and ride with their children?

Posted by Nancy on 01/30 at 12:56 PM

Nancy - I don’t believe for one minute that OSSTF withdrew their initial support because of a lack of parental or community input.

OSSTF never has and never will speak for parents. That no parents were involved in a board that’s prized for having “involved” parents and school councils is suspicious at best Nancy.

I venture that it’s the very thought that parents just might move to make some choices.

Parents will do what’s necessary if they believe it will get their kids the best education possible. Sandy Crux has a post up currently that speaks to an issue in the USA where a parent in a low economic district made the choice of school for her child. Go read it and see how that turned out.

I hear you Steve and for your reasons as well. That community choice also means making community mistakes.

Posted by Chuck on 01/30 at 01:44 PM

Doug, always stated that the OSSTF believes that for education policies to work well, that they must have the support of the teachers, as well as the parents. Besides the newspaper accounting of their withdrawal, the withdrawal came after the final approval of it and a couple days later the news of there was no public input at all in the last two years.

“But almost lost in the furor over the segregation issue is the clandestine way this school came to reality. The DSBN Academy has been a closely-guarded secret at the board for a year-and-a-half, only coming to public light a week ago. That is not a good way to formulate public policy.

According to the board, it has spent time over the past 18 months engaging in consultations, gathering opinions and data and even looking at two similar schools in San Diego, Calif., to see if this is a model that would work in Niagara.

And it did it all without public scrutiny, without public input, without public notice—but with public money…............ For such a big issue, one with public costs attached to it and one that has come to light within two months of the beginning of the term, there was not a peep heard about it on the campaign trail.”
http://www.stcatharinesstandard.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2953407

I know the area well, and it is typical of the Niagara Board not to consult with the public, or even the parents. I remember when Harris was in power, and made the changes to the board. The trustees did not like it, and give a lot of parents a hard time, including me. A hard time for little things, such as changing schools to one just down the street.

  Since the 90s the Niagara School Board does things their way without public input, and things have not change since my time in Ontario. Furthermore, parent councils are seen only as fund-raising machines, but just watch when a parent council want a school guard or something far more important than fund-raising, the run-around will commence. The two years that I spent on a parent council, things have not change their either. One just has to look at the school closures to see that.

Parents down in the Niagara Peninsula are quite attached to their local schools, that are near or inside their neighbourhoods. Probably another reason why the board kept quiet, because transporting students from other towns into Welland, will be a hour’s ride on very busy highways.

So parent councils were not inform, nor were the voters, which leaves the community groups and associations that does deal with children. There is strong cooperation between the various community groups/associations and the board. That has always been there, but what is really appalling is the tactic the board used to get feedback from low-income parents. They were used to asked parents if they like to see their children go to a school like that. However, it is doubtful that the parent was informed that it will be low-income students who have strong academic achievement.  Below is the video link of the board’s final approval.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRwbYUWvOsM

From the Toronto Star: “It’s the responsibility of a public school system to provide a good education to all its students — not just the easy ones. Segregating students who struggle academically due to their family circumstances in a special school is not fulfilling that responsibility.”
http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorials/article/929534—niagara-school-board-poor-students-deserve-better

One newspaper after another from small to large and everything between are against the idea. Even the Minister of Education states that 90 % of the parents are against the idea. It is really not about providing choice at all.  The Niagara board really does not offer choice, in the same way as the Toronto Board. Than again the kind of choice that is offered in the Toronto Board is suitable for the city of Toronto, but the same type of choices in the Niagara Board comes with steep costs in transportation alone. Only a few alternatives, if one does like a public education. The ones that have the means to send their children to private school, are doing so. The growing population of homeschoolers is the other alternative. For the folks in between, they are either force to go to the school within their zone, or lie about their residence address. In the 90s, that was very common among the middle and low-income groups, and from what I can see it is still happening. I even have family members using the address of other relatives, to send their child to a school across the city for various reasons.

I think it is a major crack that might just bring education being a major topic for the next election. If anything, this new school has brought an elephant that been sitting on the back burner for the pass 20 years or so. The issue is providing an education for all children, and not a handful here and handful there.

Posted by Nancy on 01/30 at 04:33 PM

Sorry Nancy but I don’t believe everything the media spins - good or bad.

I’ve also been around long enough to know not to trust that the teacher unions will do anything that supports the views of parents and what’s always good for the students.

Having said that if what the papers are suggesting that this has been kicking around the Niagara community for two years and the public hadn’t caught on or parents didn’t notice whose responsibility is it to make sure that happens. Can’t always be one-way.

Whose responsibility is it also to educate the parents and the community to help them recognize when they’re being had?

I’m betting like most issues in education, until a decision was ready to be made no one in this community paid it much attention.

School boards all across this province are making decisions in advance of community input re: school accommodation reviews. There’s a great show of the ARCs holding meetings very publicly, making it appear that the plans that boards have already crafted aren’t carved in stone. At the end of the day what usually transpires is what the 10 year Capital Plan laid out based on only the recommendations of trustees and board staff.

Posted by Chuck on 01/31 at 11:32 AM

here’s a really good response from a contributor over at the Ed. Reporter from another TDSBteacher.

“TDSBteacher said…

  Of course, the devil is in the details, but this has potential to be a development both innovative and positive. The target population are secondary students, and we know from extensive follow-up data (in TDSB and elsewhere) that many, if not most, low-SES students who drop out of high school do so because of disengagement, feelings of isolation and disconnectedness, lack of home support, and inability to relate what they are doing to their future goals. When interviewed as to why they drop out, most give some variant on, “Nobody cared about me.” Thus, the mentoring, counseling and support components are vital, and harnessing local community support (via business partners, agencies and the like) is also critical.

  It is often assumed that low-income students drop out because they cannot meet academic expectations (low literacy and numeracy skills), but this is true only for a subset. I’ve been in three low-SES middle schools (in 3 different quadrants of the TDSB), and our data showed that significant numbers of our high-achieving students dropped out before completing Grade 10. It was not a matter of “couldn’t read” (or write, or do math) but of didn’t/wouldn’t/chose not to or didn’t see the point. The promising “Pathways to Education” program (active in my current family of schools) seeks to address this by pairing up secondary students with college students who can give them a better and more realistic sense of what the immediate future holds.

  The students who enter secondary school with inadequate skills need their issues addressed, but the TCDSB has a successful model in place with its implementation of Dr. Maureen Lovett’s PHAST PACES literacy program which has boosted the reading and written language skills of students in grades 9 and 10. Dr. Lovett, from Sick Kids, developed a carefully sequenced instructional program that incorporates component skills, fluency development, vocabulary, strategy instruction and self-talk metacognitive skills for struggling readers, and the school-based implementation features not only an intensive course in the summer for teachers but ongoing weekend seminars and on-site, in-class coaching from Sick Kids staff trainers. It has been enormously successful and perhaps Niagara is looking at this model. If not, they should be.

  I think, however, they should be flexible about admissions criteria. Not many progeny of plutocrats will be battering down the door for admission, but there could well be at-risk students who have a college-educated parent (with whom they have no contact), or whose family circumstances make the school ideal despite slightly higher apparent income.

  29 January, 2011 12:43”

Posted by Chuck on 01/31 at 11:35 AM

Hi,I never feel right self promoting but seeing as this post on the Maureen Lovett program was posted I can tell you we have 150 trained Remediation Plus teachers trained in reading intervention in that board,1-2 per school, and they now have 4 classrooms doing early prevention whole class teaching SK and 1.We are expanding next year.
The teachers are all trained for 3 days by the speech pathologist who is the Remediation Plus Train the Trainer.
The board has become very aware of research based instruction and what it can do for teachers and kids.

My apologies Doretta and Malkin for mentioning my program.

Posted by Jo-Anne Gross on 01/31 at 04:17 PM

My heart and my head are at odds on this one.

http://wp.me/p1853r-4a

Posted by Stephen Hurley on 02/04 at 05:57 AM

Stephen, the questions asked at the end of the article are good ones, and which have not been answered by the school authorities.

After saying this, why are people opposed to it?  Some say it is not a Canadian way, and others are much more harsh in their criticism. I will posed another question:  What makes anyone think that the policies that are taking shape for this school, are good policies when the majority of people who are deciding, have never lived a life of low-income. The powers to be thought residential schools for natives were a good idea to, but look at the outcomes that many native communities and governments are paying a steep price.  Or the policies for LD children, where many of the policies are shaped by people who do not have a learning disability?  I lost track of the many educrats who will defend the LD policies, based on they are the only ones that know what is best for the children.

One reason cited by the board - “She added the school — developed in consultation with nearby Brock University, the local YMCA and the elementary teachers’ union — is aimed at reducing the board’s high school dropout rate, which at 10.6 per cent is above the provincial average of 9 per cent.

“It could be a life-changer for hundreds of families,” Robinson said, citing a 12-year-old pupil who was exhausted one recent morning after caring for a sick brother all night because their parents work as overnight office cleaners.”
http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/article/932340—debate-heats-up-over-niagara-school-for-poor-kids

A lot of people who be questioning this one, since if this is a common occurrence, children will still come to school exhausted. Rather a weak reason, when the school cannot change the circumstances at home, which leads me to believe that there will be careful selection of which students will be allow to attend.

On another note, but can be related to the above is a case in NL, where children have been removed from a home based on IQ testing. CBC got hold of the report, when the parents both with grade 12 went public, and since than it is the only thing that is on the minds of everyone.  Even though, child services are denying it, other stories are coming to light where children from the lower income homes are being taking away based on intelligence scores of parents, and not on the markers of the usual things like drug use. With this school, it is based on the parent’s education level as one of the criteria, and here too there is a core group that are low income for a number of reasons despite having high levels of education. One of the main reasons being permanently disabled, and cannot work. Will their children be denied because the parents did not meet all the criteria for entry into the school?  The trouble with the school, it hinges on the parents’ circumstances, and not the individual child’s educational needs. Much like the low-income parents that is facing a court battle, based on IQ, and where people including lawyers are offering their services for free, to get their kids back. One set of policies for low-income, and another for the higher-income, and where policies have a remarkable trait of narrowing down the criteria, and sub-groups of the income levels are treated to various degrees of discrimination.

Posted by Nancy on 02/04 at 08:22 AM

Thanks for the comments Nancy. You’re right in that it is family context and circumstance that are determining the vision.

I teach in what StatsCan calls a low socio-economic area. I haven’t done the research (nor should I) to determine a link between socio-economic status, parent education and individual student achievement, but we believe that we do a good job of trying to meet the needs of all the students that come to us.

That said, we need more. More special ed resources, more identification support and more connections with families and the community. Most of the support mechanisms in the District are not distributed by need, but by numbers. And this, I believe, is problematic.

That is one of the things about an initiative like the one in Niagara…it “could” allocate resources more equitably.

I appreciate your perspective and your ideas on this.

stephen

Posted by Stephen Hurley on 02/04 at 08:48 AM

We all know why poor kids do badly,those of us in the field, and this school is a band aid , the achievements not well researched at all-why,will they have the funding of Harlem`s Children`s Zone to do the holistic intervention-and starting in grade 6 makes no sense.

It is also a scary idea.It could have been worded so differently-why the H call it “poor school”.

Quote from a very large First Nations district in Alberta-

“We have learned that whole language instruction has marginalized our children for 30 years and been responsible for the increase in suicide rates.”

Are the Universities shifting to honour the empirical evidence for successful instruction that creates literate citizens-no-effectiveness when teachers leave their B.Ed is not their concern.
Pompous isn`t the word~

Children from poverty have not been read to and stimulated at the articulation level because they often have parents who are not literate-low phonemic awareness,a brain processing issue ensues and the trouble is there day one.
The instruction to overcome all this by Grade 3 starts in K-there are some extremely knowledgeable people in that board but like all bureaucracies there are many camps.The right hand doesn`t know what the left hand is doing and trustees are not educators-

Major strategic plan required-here and in all school boards.

Gee,the Literacy Secretariat is so quiet-25 million a year I hear-

Posted by Jo-Anne Gross on 02/06 at 09:35 AM

“Children from poverty have not been read to and stimulated at the articulation level because they often have parents who are not literate-low phonemic awareness,a brain processing issue ensues and the trouble is there day one.”

Now that makes prefect sense to me, since I too have low-phonemic awareness. As a parent, I much prefer to tell stories, than to read from a book after they became older. With my youngest though, I had to change. Audio taped books, plus I made quite a few using the CD format. I no longer had to stumbled over words that I could not pronounce properly, especially in novels and my youngest could follow the words in the book, hearing the correct sounds and pronunciation.

Has there been any studies on parents as a group exploring phonemic awareness and how it relates to the reading activities at home?  Just wondering, because my problems certainly impacted the activities at home for all my children, especially in reading material. My oldest who learned how to read before school, and loves reading, did not want me to read to her starting at about 8 years old, because I was always tripping over the words. Her father took over that duty, and she went to me for the writing, math and other stuff related to language. So, I can certainly relate the significance of phonemic awareness and the outcomes.

Posted by Nancy on 02/06 at 11:00 AM
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